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<v Alan> So we've now had our solar system installed - solar as in PV - on our roof.


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We've got some actual numbers, which we didn't have a year ago.


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And why did we do this? Well, we wanted to again reduce bills.


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We could reduce our CO2 emissions and reduce our gas bill as well, both for water of course.


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We thought it was worth a look. This is after we had that journey.


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We went through that exercise of looking at all the things we could do on the house


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and decided that solar PV was an easy win.


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It was relatively inexpensive. It wasn't too disruptive to the house.


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Bearing in mind that since we've bought the house we've put some engineering flooring down.


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We've got carpets. It's decorated. Not saying it's perfection.


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But if we were to do major works now we would be undoing all the good things we've already done.


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I should add, prompted by Dan's talk, I said it was four hours to put solar panels in.


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Yes it was, but the scaffolding had already been put up outside the house.


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It wasn't four hours in total. But that was done as a separate activity.


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So we thought "It's worth a look". We did exactly what Dan said.


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We got about six quotes from relatively local-to-us installers in Kingston.


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We used a mixture of word-of-mouth recommendation and I actually went to Which?


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It happens I subscribe to Which?. I'm not so certain about some of its reviews.


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But they've got a list of trusted traders.


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We'd had some, I shouldn't be saying this, but we had one or two nasty experiences with Checkatrade


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rated or qualified traders. So we weren't very happy with one or two of those.


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We got our fingers burnt, not quite literally. Anyway, so yeah, a combination of both.


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We got some quotes. Many of these companies will not visit your house. They'll give you a quote,


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but they won't necessarily turn up at your property. They'll do it from using Google Earth and other facts


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and just give you a number based on roof size. So be aware of that.


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Our goal was with a budget. We actually did this unlike some installers, sorry, some installations.


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Sorry I'm jumping around, but I've been triggered by a few of the comments.


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We set ourselves a budget. We said "We're going to spend no more than this amount of money."


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"What can we get?"  Where some people may do it the other way around.


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I feel Dan's done it where he's wanted the best system he could have for his property.


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Whereas we actually capped it up front. We said "We've only got this amount of money."


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And then we went to these installers and said, "What sort of system can we get today with this sum?"


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"How do we trade off the battery, number of other panels, how much energy will we get from that?"


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And that's how we did this. As I already mentioned, we wanted a battery.


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We thought that was going to be important, particularly for the winter months.


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And we capture reduced energy costs electricity at night during the winter and fill our battery up.


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Our battery's possibly a bit under-sized.


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We also added electric water heating as a last minute feature, including a solar diverter.


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We can talk about that in a moment. All these things I've been talking about with others.


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Others have talked about suitability of roof, slates, directions, structures.


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We've now got a brilliant roof in so far as the amount of available south-facing roof space on our roof isn't great.


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So we looked at this 20 years ago and everyone said, well, they're not worth doing.


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But in the interim 20 years, panels have got much more efficient. They're much, much cheaper.


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So it's a slightly different position today.


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We've gone through the battery storing inside, outside. There's actually a specific regulation.


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It's not a regulation, so it's not mandatory, as I would call it.


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But there is a document that's referred here that actually gives guidance on where batteries are in home use of energy storage,


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where they should go. So this is not complete.


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So that's what we've got. That's what we've effectively got.


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We've got 12 panels, 5 kilowatt peak capacity.


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We've got a 9 kilowatt-hour battery and charger.


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And actually, that's the point Damon mentioned.


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You've got to be a bit careful - when we had our system put in place,


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I said, say we want to run our washing machine and we want to run the kettle at the same time,


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because there is a limit to what your inverter will enable.


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And we went slightly upsized. We've got a 5 kilowatt capable device.


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So we can provide, as we understand it, 5 kilowatts into the house from our battery.


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If you don't look at that, you might find you can't do what I've just described.


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You can't power two large appliances at the same time.


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<v Damon> You should be clear out there. That doesn't mean the lights will go out.


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<v Damon> It simply means you import a little bit from the grid.


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<v Alan> Yeah, it means you've got less of your own stored energy being used,


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and more, as Damon rightly points out, more energy coming through your conventional electricity meter.


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We've got this myenergi eddi power diverter, which feeds an old-fashioned cylinder in our case.


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We haven't replaced our cylinder. We haven't replaced the immersion heater.


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We can talk a tiny bit about that too.


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But this is what the panels look like. That's a group of three panels on the front, south-facing.


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And we've got another single panel on this face of the roof here.


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And then we've got eight panels on the other face of our roof, total of 12.


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Two separate pictures. Well, that's our rather busy consumer unit arranged with smart meter.


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That's the smart meter. That's the fuse (isolator) for the solar components.


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And in our garage by the door by the fire extinguisher in fact, we've got our battery pack,


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which is a Fox made by company Fox. And then we've got the charger-inverter.


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One unusual thing, relatively unusual, we've got per panel an inverter.


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Typically, some PV systems have an inverter that takes what they call a string of panels,


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and maybe an inverter will have two strings of six panels.


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Because we've got our panels split across three roofs, we've actually got individual inverters on every panel.


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That's the best you can have in today's technology.


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It means that any shading or problem with an individual panel doesn't affect the other panel.


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You can also look at the performance of the individual panels.


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So it's quite good. You pay a little bit more for that.


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You might ask how much more - I don't know precisely - but maybe a 10% hit, let's say, on price,


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to have that individual panel inverter technology. But I think it's worth having.


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Our battery is probably a bit undersized from what we've sort of gleaned during the year.


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So it's rather small I'm afraid. In fact, I think if I just move on to the next, there's total here.


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Some of you may be concerned about actual numbers in terms of saving, and there's a column on the right giving you some ideas.


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But we've got to be very careful. In our one year of ownership, we've generated 4.3 megawatt-hours of electricity.


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Now, we're probably running. We don't know precisely. Maybe I should know, but I don't know.


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We're probably now down to about 5 megawatt [hours]. Those who heard my earlier talk.


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We're probably using about 5 megawatt-hours of electricity a year if we didn't have solar.


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But in spite of having solar, we've only used 2.8 megawatt-hours of the solar components.


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We've actually got surplus that we were not able to use during the year.


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So that extra 1.5 megawatt-hours, which is in the second line, that got exported back to our energy supplier Octopus.


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Now, you don't get very much for that today. You only get about 15 pence per [kilowatt-hour]...


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They're not, you know, maybe seems to be interested per se in that going back.


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We would have been better off using it ourselves if we could.


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But we were either not in the house when the sun was out and we were generating,


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or we've not got a big enough battery such that we could capture some of that, or millions of variations, some of these.


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We don't have an electric hob. So when we've got a frying pan on, we're not using that energy that we might have otherwise used.


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So the other thing is our hot water regime, that use of our existing cylinder, old fashioned immersion heater,


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we are not getting much energy into that by observation of the app that we've got for managing that.


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What I'm saying is, if you want to heat your hot water using solar,


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you probably need to install a new brand new super duper cylinder with optimised, you know,


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element placement and so on. Even then, you're not going to make huge savings, but it would be more so.


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So we've clearly saved some money. If you could use all of it, you could maybe save £1100 in actual bill terms.


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But we didn't save £1100 because we didn't use all of it.


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We could compute the amount of actually saved from the export.


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But we've clearly saved money and used a large chunk of that solar energy that we've produced.


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We've produced more than we thought we would, considering our slightly crazy roof shape.


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So we think it's been quite good.


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